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After
five million career sales, 19 No. 1 hit singles and continual
record-breaking attendance at concerts, the four-time Grammy nominated
group Newsboys is finally attracting mainstream media coverage. But it’s
obvious after only a few minutes with songwriter and frontman Peter Furler
that his life is not defined by accolades but by a profound adoration for
Christ. The changes in Peter’s personal life over the last few years
have undoubtedly served as an impetus for the Newsboys latest CD devotion,
a thought-provoking combination of new worship songs. In this interview
with Servant, Peter talks with Phil Callaway about the struggles of his
marriage, his career, and his faith. It’s
been said that the Newsboys “have less flash, more content” now. Is
that accurate? More content? I would hope so. Who
comes to a Newboys concert? Moms
and dads and kids. A lot of them were fans 18 years ago, now they’re in
their late 30s and we’re seeing them with their kids. It’s
clear in listening to your albums that there has been a maturing process.
Have you undergone a major spiritual change? Yes,
in the last four years. You can believe that Jesus is the way but your
life’s really lost. You can believe He’s the truth but you don’t
have as much truth in you as what you need. You can believe He’s the
life but you’re not really living the life He called you to. And
that’s kind of where I was, even though I was in a Christian band. It
took a toll on my relationships and my family. It got to a point where the
toll was too hefty. You come to a place where you fall to yourself or you
fall at the feet of Jesus. Four years ago I didn’t really have any
foundations in my life even though I grew up in the church. Every time a
storm would come, my foundation was really built on sand. I was swept
about and swayed by people’s opinions. The Bible is something I didn’t
have in my life. I respected it but I really didn’t have a knowledge of
what it was there for. I began to ask God to lead me and guide me. There
are some things He loves to give and grants us swiftly and a love of His
Word is one of them. Revelation of His Son is another. So as I started
going through the Word and applying it to different parts of my life,
it’s living and active and I started to realize that I really wasn’t
walking in fellowship with others and I didn’t have a spiritual family
and He led me to that. These things started to change and I began to see
how the Body works together and why there’s so many people running from
it, not unbelievers, but people running from the great things God has. How
much of people running away from the faith has to do with us as believers? Well,
that’s exactly it, really. Jesus said to go into all the world and make
disciples and we need to ask ourselves how are we following? We ask, can
we trust God? I think it should be maybe, Christians, can we trust you?
Are you worth following? Do people see it being lived out? That doesn’t
mean you’ve got to be walking around with your nose in the air. It’s a
vibrant life led by the Spirit of God. What
does true devotion look like, Peter? You
can be devoted to yourself, worried about how people see you and in the
end you put yourself in front of God. Or you can live to please Him and
allow Him to be the first part of your day, the one who goes before
everything. That’s really what it is. There’s no condition that comes
before you and the Creator. You’ve
been at the forefront of a return to “worship” music. Are you
concerned it may be a fad? No.
Because in the end of the Book of Revelation it’s people singing
“Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty.” Rock and Roll has only
been here for a short time and it’s got more of a chance of being a
trend. If it’s a trend, it’s not real worship. It’s infatuation or
an emotional high. We’ve had enough altar calls in America. We need to
make disciples and the only we can do that is if we are one. Are
groups like the Newsboys just preaching to the converted? Converted
to what? To
Christianity? There
are so many Christians who don’t know the Word, who are not in
fellowship with other believers and have not found a spiritual family or
had a revelation of why Jesus really came beyond that He died for our
sins. So if that’s who we’re preaching to then we’ll keep preaching. What
do you see God doing through your music? We’ve
seen people getting a love for the Word and a foundation in their lives.
We’ve seen people recommitting their marriages. We’re seeing
restoration. We’re judged by our fruit and we’re looking for lasting
fruit, not just numbers or an emotional kick. You
admitted a few years ago that your marriage was in trouble. We
have no authority to be on stage if our family life is in a mess. We
won’t really have anything to say. I figured out the right reason to
love one another is out of respect and reverence for Christ and what He
has done, and you do these things as unto the Lord, for Him. You separate
yourself in a Holy way. So I had to find that, and until that time, it
became a bit of a mess. I
was in a Christian ministry. I was in the Bible every day, reading books,
preaching on stage. But I had a form of godliness but with no power. It
was all about me and my rights. I would come home from providing for the
family and I thought I was owed something. That’s not the attitude Jesus
had. We can love people for the wrong reasons–to get something out of
them. But we’re to love one another as unto the Lord and out of respect
for what Jesus did. It’s about giving up ourselves and our ways and
respecting our wives and putting them above our business and ministry. How
difficult is it to nourish a marriage when you’re on the road? It’s
actually quite easy now because I’ve put the marriage first. I realized
that she needs someone to love her and cherish her and she should be
involved in everything. She travels with us whenever she wants to. I had
to put her first with actions. That means not just calling her four times
a day, it means not touring as much. My marriage is more important than
music, than ministry, because marriage is ministry. A lot of ministers get
tricked. That’s why there’s so much divorce in the church because we
get tricked. I have a theory that a man is meant to worship God and put
Him first and seek His kingdom and to love his wife as unto the Lord and
everything after that is secondary. I’m just not worried about the next
gig any more, it’s just not my priority. Before we would do 65 shows in
90 days. Now I play Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday and I’m home.
Four weekends and the tour is finished. What
changes have you seen in your marriage? He
has restored my marriage where I saw no hope. He’s blessed us immensely.
It’s been a tremendous year. Sometimes it’s hard. I have to trust God
that His ways are not my ways, they’re better. What
do you believe now about marriage? I
believe that no matter what you’re going through in your marriage,
especially if you have children, you’re better off to stay in that
marriage. Do it even as a sacrifice unto the Lord and you will start to
see mighty miracles happen. You’ll start to see it in the children and
the next generation. What
would you say to struggling couples? Don’t
go through it alone. You need people around you who have people around
them. I would not be under a pastor who’s not under other people. My
pastor walks has people in his life that he’s had for 15 or 20 years.
That’s a sign of a man who’s under authority. That’s not bondage,
it’s freedom. So now my wife has someone she can go and talk to if I’m
out of line and that’s freedom for her. Ask God to bring people into
your lives and then submit to them. The first key is to do things for each
other even if you’re angry and you feel you’re right. It’s not about
your rights. Jesus gave up His rights. He had the rights to call down the
angels but He didn’t. He gave up His rights for us. He’s our model as
husbands. I have seen restoration happen when I thought there was no hope.
God can do the impossible, but we have to do it His way. We have to walk
in fellowship with other believers and be men that walk in the Word and
know the Word and be sons of God because we’re lead by the Spirit of
God. What
steps do you take to protect your purity? We walk in pretty tight circles.
I’m not out here alone. I go through the same struggles as every other
man does but I’m not alone in it so that’s probably the best thing.
I’ve got the sword of truth, I’ve got the helmet of salvation, I’ve
got this armor and people to help me put it on. I’ve got men in my life
that I just don’t want to disappoint because I love them so much, and
I’ve made a commitment to them. And my wife is starting to meet women
who are great women in the Lord, who are not phony. What
has helped you in restoring the devotion to God in your life? Having
the knowledge of God’s word, for it be revealed to me. It can’t just
be words on a paper. It’s got to be alive and living and active in my
life. It’s got to be penetrating, dividing spirit and soul, joints and
marrow. It’s got to be judging my thoughts and attitudes, revealing to
me that nothing is hidden from the sight of God, and that everything would
be uncovered and laid bare before him to whom we must give account. How
would you define true success? That
I’m still married and there’s a process of restoration in my life.
That’s success. That I was devoted to the kingdom and God’s purpose,
not my purpose. My purpose is finding out God’s purpose and doing it.
All the other stuff’s dross and it won’t make it through the fire
eventually. What’s
next for you guys? We’ll
I can tell you this: We won’t be up on the rooftops with our bags packed
waiting for Jesus to come back, there’s work to do. Our job is to
restore, and to be the pillar of truth and integrity in the world. The
only way we can shine a light in this world is if it’s really operating
in our lives. That light can’t be man made. How
would you like to be remembered? I’m
not really sure I care that much, probably just by my wife as a great
husband. That’s as good as you can get. She’s the one that counts NOTE:
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